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Posted: 5:30 PM Jan 8, 2008
Last Updated: 9:52 PM Jan 8, 2008

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Knoxville (WVLT) -- Should you be allowed to carry a gun into a restaurant that serves alcohol?

At least one state senator thinks so.

Volunteer TV's Rob Pratt is here to explain what the proposed change in the law could mean and what people think of it.

Tennessee Senator Doug Jackson, from Dixon, expects to introduce the bill Wednesday.

It comes less than two weeks after the deadly shooting at Hooter's in Knoxville.

While some hope the new law could help prevent such tragedies, others say guns should not be on the menu at all.

If you are eating at Beef 'O' Brady's, or any other Tennessee restaurant that serves alcohol, you can't bring a gun inside.

But that could change.

It's just a bill right now, but if it becomes law, those with permits could bring a gun in, as long as they are not the one's drinking.

Beef 'O' Brady's owner Mike Peacock says that's a bad idea.

"I don't want to sit and wander how many of my customers actually have guns on them."

People may be secretly bringing guns into restaurants with bars now. But they face time in jail if they are caught. Changing that could put restaurant owners in a difficult position.

Peacock says, "I'm not against people having the right to bear arms, but doing it in an establishment like this is uncalled for."

The customers we talked to worry about winding up in the line of fire.

Neva Bowerman calls the proposed law dangerous and says, "I believe everyone ought to be able to carry a gun, but I think that bringing it out to where alcohol is being served might be very dangerous."

Trevor Putnam says, "I think that's a good idea."

Putnam sells guns and operates a shooting range at Coal Creek Armory. He says the law would not cause problems, because it limits gun-toting to those who have gone through the process to get a permit.

"There's already a federal law against carrying a firearm while intoxicated. I don't think preventing people who aren't drinking from carrying in restaurants is going to make anybody any safer."

Even if the bill passes, individual restaurants could still choose to ban weapons inside if they post the proper signs.

Still, restaurants could end up in the line of fire in a public relations sense, caught between customers with very different views.

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Posted by: Roy Location: Chicago suburb-soon Nashville on Apr 24, 2008 at 06:34 PM
I am moving out of Illinois largely because of the alternating "chicken little"-"ostrich" mentality of the Chicago dominated politics. I wonder why the anti-gun opinions ALWAYS ignore the facts that the person LEGALLY carrying is prohibited from consuming alcohol and that many other states have ALREADY PASSED SIMILAR LAWS without problem. I have yet to find ONE person with an antigun opinion that can rationally argue their point. They are consumed with emotion and somehow feel that because some of us would willingly accept the responsibilities that come with arming oneself that we would demand ALL OTHERS to do the same. WE DO NOT! In fact, if you are at all uncomfortable with a firearm LEAVE THEM BE! But you may want to have one of us near if you are violently accosted because the chances of having a policeman near enough is slim and courts have determined that THE POLICE DON'T HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT THE INDIVIDUAL! Think about it!

Posted by: Henry Location: SC on Mar 22, 2008 at 03:01 PM
Guns yes, but only if they bring roses too. I have always felt restaurants should have several sections. Kids and no kids. Drinking and non-drinking. Smoking and non-smoking. Loud laughing groups and people who just want to enjoy each others company and a good meal. And now of course, guns or no guns, with perhaps some bullet proof partitions. And pick up a bullet proof vest as you come in the door. And the roses? Well for the funerals of course. On second thought, maybe I'll just get someone to deliver a pizza to my door.

Posted by: Keith Location: Knoxville/Afghanistan on Mar 15, 2008 at 07:47 AM
Drinking and carrying a firearm is already against the law. Allowing me to carry in a resturant so me and my wife can eat SHOULD NOT be. Just becuase you are in an establishment that serves alcohol does not mean you will partake. HCP holders are generally responsible adults and the few that are not know better and do not violate the law anyways. They DO NOT carry in Federal Parks or state parks. I do believe they should be able to, but we do not because it is the law. Posting signs have been proven NOT to stop crimials look at VT and NIU. The citizens were disarmed while the LAW BREAKING shooters were not. If any one feels diffrent then please send me an e-mail and I will happily discuss my opinions and listen to yours.

Posted by: Sally Location: Loudon on Feb 20, 2008 at 12:33 PM
The owners of these places need to remember the bad guys are going to have the guns,sooo wouldn't it make since for the citizens to have the protection if needed???? They have gone through classes to have this right...

Posted by: Bill Location: Lenoir City, TN on Jan 16, 2008 at 11:25 PM
I very much support bill (SB0023 Sen. Doug Jackson) that permits a person who has a handgun carry permit to carry where alcohol is served if the person is not consuming alcohol. Many times I have been walking in Knoxville with my wife and daughters near where a young couple last year were carjacked, raped, tortured, and murdered. Then before we could go in most restaurants I would walk all the way back to the parking area and put my gun in the car. My gun is much safer in my possession than in my car for a thief to have access to. All the dangerous criminals are already carrying weapons wherever they please. If a restaurant wants to only allow the criminals to carry weapons into their establishment they can post a sign to turn the rest of us away.

Posted by: Allen Location: Rutledge TN on Jan 13, 2008 at 06:48 PM
No gun zones are one of the more nonsensical ideas ever thought up .Citizens who have passed the requirements for a carry permit have demonstrated that they are law abiding and mentally stable enough to be able to act responsibly . Many senseless attacks could be halted by just one person being able to disarm or kill an idiot bent on mayhem .

Posted by: Jonathan Location: South Carolina on Jan 13, 2008 at 01:27 PM
I think this is a good idea. I have a permit and I carry my firearm with me in restaurants that don't serve alcohol already. Restaurant managers would not think anything about it if the person carrying was a police officer, but think that a permit holder is not capable of handling a firearm. I am a frequent visitor to TN, so I am in full support of this bill. If the managers wish to not have armed permit holders in their resaurant then they should post "no weapons" signs on the door that is completely their right, but I will take my business elsewhere if I see one of those signs. It's funny how we are good enough to spend our money there, but not viewed as being good enough to exercise our rights!

Posted by: Curly Location: Cookeville on Jan 10, 2008 at 02:34 PM
I have a permit to carry my hand gun & the 2th amendment gives me the right to owne and carry my gun, I should we able to carry my gun where ever I go. And that in cludes all buildings state parks or other wise . The should prosecute the out law that comits a crime with a gun to the fullest extent and leave the law abiding citizen alone.

Posted by: Marwan Location: Cincinnati, Ohio on Jan 10, 2008 at 01:27 PM
So did the current law stop the shooter at the Hooters Restaurant? Indiana and Kentucky have allowed permitted carry in restaurants for some time with no resultant "shootout". You should look at other states and not dream up imaginary scenarios when discussing this topic.

Posted by: Kenneth Location: Tennessee on Jan 10, 2008 at 01:16 PM
All persons who take the carry permit course are taught the liabilities that they are responsible for. These in themselves make the person much more aware of the situations that may occur and how to react. Consuming alcohol while armed, with a carry permit, carries a harsh penalty. This in itself is a strong deterrent for the legally armed citizen. With crime as it is, one is foolish not to protect themselves by any Legal means available.

Posted by: Diane Location: Mooresburg, TN on Jan 10, 2008 at 10:49 AM
We should absolutely be allowed to carry in restaurants. The ones who obey the current law and have a permit are not the ones to fear. The ones who already don't bide by them are the ones who will carry anyway. They're the reason we carry.

Posted by: Danny Location: West TN on Jan 10, 2008 at 04:44 AM
I don't have a problem with anyone carrying a concealed weapon anywhere. With the understanding that,"they are not consuming any alcoholic beverages". This is the law and I don't have a problem with it. I think you should have a right to carry (concealed) in any restaurant establishment. The permit holder already knows the law. It's the non-permit holder/criminal, who will be carrying a weapon, in defiance to the law.

Posted by: Will Location: Colorado on Jan 9, 2008 at 07:52 PM
For years, permit holders in Colorado have been able to carry legal firearms in bars and restaurants that serve alcohol. The naysayers cried about it in the beginning, cried about how there were going to be drunken gunfights every night and Colorado would turn in to the Wild West. But their prophecies of gloom and doom never came to pass. It has not been a problem here. Surely the people of Tennessee are just as mature and responsible as the people of Colorado.

Posted by: Dustin Location: USA on Jan 9, 2008 at 07:13 PM
It has already been proven many times over that "Gun Free Zones" are nothing more than victim disarmament zones. Why should I be barred from the best method to protect my family & myself while sitting in a restaurant that happens to also sell alcohol? It is not as if a criminal is going to leave his gun in his or her car just because there is a law that says he or she has to - criminals break laws by definition. I don't drink myself, but restaurants have to sell alcohol to attract the largest number of clients. As a result, it is very hard to find a nice restaurant that does not sell alcohol. Why should I be forced to leave my gun in my car where it could be stolen & go defenseless into yet another victim disarmament zone so that my family & I can eat a nice meal together. Gun Free Zones do not provide any benefit, but do create target rich environments for criminals. It is high time we get rid of them. Business owners could still post no weapons allowed if they wish.

Posted by: T. J. Location: Ohio on Jan 9, 2008 at 03:09 PM
Pennsylvania and Indiana are just two states that allow licensed individuals in restaurants and bars that serve alcohol. Check the statistics! There are simply NO shootouts by drunken license holders in those establishments in those two states. So, what is the problem again?

Posted by: Anonymous on Jan 9, 2008 at 01:18 PM
I feel like all these people who support this are blundering idiots who have ego issues!!!

Posted by: Anonymous Location: here on Jan 9, 2008 at 11:26 AM
Let them post their gun ban signs - I won't spend my money on their food if they do. Sounds like they want to create a gun free zone so some whacko can some in and shoot us all up like Luby's in Texas had happen because of the same thing. My life is worth more than that. And yes I carry 24/7

Posted by: Bill Location: work on Jan 9, 2008 at 08:31 AM
Mine and my families life is worth protecting with a gun no mater where I'm at, period.

Posted by: David Location: Maryville, TN on Jan 9, 2008 at 04:48 AM
I am very much for handgun permit holders being allowed to carry in restaurants. It is foolish to think a permit holder will smell alcohol and shoot the place up. Present law, in fact, forces responsible permit holders to leave a firearm unattended in a car in a parking lot where it can fall in the hands of a REAL criminal. Permit holders have proven in states where restaurant carry is allowed (which is many states) simply go in and eat their meals and leave just like everyone else. Present law does not prevent crime, it enhances it by forcing people to leave guns unattended where criminals can get them. That is one reason permit holders should be allowed in restaurants.

Posted by: Katherine Location: Knoxville on Jan 8, 2008 at 11:07 PM
This is a ridiculous legislation. How are they going to ensure that a person toting a firearm isn't going to be drinking? Search everyone going into restaurants and tag those with guns? Guns and alcohol do not mix. If this legislation had been in effect at the Hooters shooting, then how many more people might have gotten caught in the line of fire? What if a drunk or even buzzed citizen decided to attempt to shoot the perp? We hear about the effects of even a small amount of alcohol on one's motor functions. If driving under the influence is against the law, then I think we certainly need to restrict guns from mixing with establishments serving alcohol. Fights break out at restaurants serving alcohol every once in awhile ... the last thing the public needs is for guns to be mixed in these affairs. I, for one, would certainly be going out to eat less frequently if this legislation were to pass. I'm not taking a gamble with my life just to get some pasta.

Posted by: Charles Location: Knoxville on Jan 8, 2008 at 07:18 PM
Good idea, because for the ones that have a permit and carry all the time it is safer to keep the gun on you than leaving it locked in the vehicle. Someone could see you leave the gun and steal it or rob you. And the law change would allow permit holders to enjoy more choices to eat at than to worry about weather they can enter or not when they are carrying. Some restaurants are not so obvious they serve until your inside and seated, especially if its a new to you. Then you make a choice leave or break the law by staying.

Posted by: harold Location: knoxville on Jan 8, 2008 at 07:12 PM
i dont think thats a good idea to carry a hand gun in any place ware it can get it to the wrong hands and hurt more kids or any one just because it fell into the wrong hands

Posted by: Drob Location: Knoxville on Jan 8, 2008 at 06:34 PM
There is no doubt in my mind, that allowing Permitted gun carriers to take their weapons in all stores and restaurants, will cut down on crime, and should be allowed. There have been very few weapons crimes committed nationwide, by permitted carriers. If permitted citizens were allowed to carry everywhere, the bad guys would not know who would be able to protect themselves, and would cut down the crime rates. If you will notice, the Virginia Tech gunman and the one that shot up the mall before Christmas, struck areas in which they had no doubt they would not be opposed in their crimes. When you make areas in which the good guys can not carry their guns to protect themselves, then you will declare open season for the bad guys to do what the want. Please write your state representative, and encourage them to push this effort through.

Posted by: James Johns Location: crossville on Jan 8, 2008 at 06:31 PM
i went thru all the training to carry a weapon and iam a avided hunter and law abieding citzen i carry for personal pertection and it is my right to do so!!! just look at the people that dont have a permit to carry!!!but still do!! i go into a restaurant to eat with my family not to get in trouble by drinking !!the law already allows not for bars !!!just look at the crime rate of the states that have the conceled weapons law in went down !!! thank you

Posted by: HAROLD346 IN KODAK on Jan 8, 2008 at 06:30 PM
I FEEL LIKE IF NOT DRINKING YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO CARRY YOUR LEGAL WEAPON ANYWHERE YOU WANT TO

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