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Knox Co. teachers want students' criminal records Save Email Print
Posted: 1:43 PM Aug 27, 2008
Last Updated: 7:42 PM Aug 27, 2008

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KNOXVILLE, Tenn. (WVLT) -- Last week's deadly shooting at Central High School has some educators wanting to know about their students' records -- specifically, any history of trouble.

 
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School administrators say there is only so much they can legally do.

Safety can be a concern for teachers when it comes to the criminal pasts of their students, but it's a legal matter, according to Knox County Secondary Instruction Director Ed Hedgepeth.

He says, “We certainly can understand their concern at the same time we certainly are going to follow the letter of the law as well."

There is a current law that allows serious violent juvenile offenses to be reported to the school system, but the 15-year-old charged with first degree murder in the Central High School shooting falls outside of this law, because his juvenile record is for non-violent crimes.

Hedgepeth says, “we're not privy to all that information, it's up to the courts to let teh schools know. so its not us having the information, its having the information released to us."

He says the concerns of teachers need to be addressed, but the privacy of minors is also an issue.

“It's not as much about punitive measure as it is rehabilitation."

But kids make mistakes, and Hedgepeth says the school system does not want to judge, while some teachers just want to be prepared.

Hedgepeth says, “Certainly, its an issues that needs to be addressed but it needs to be addressed and very well thought out at the same time."

Hedgepeth says, at this time, there are no immediate policy changes planned that would provide juvenile record information to teachers.

He says, for now, they will continue to follow the law in place that gives them certain juvenile information.

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KNOXVILLE, Tenn. (AP) -- Some Knoxville teachers want to know about students' juvenile crime records in light of last week's fatal school shooting at Central High School.

Knox County Education Association President Athanasios Bayiates said he has been talking with teachers at that school and in the county about a possible change in school procedures.

Central High freshman Jamar Siler was arrested Thursday minutes after police say he fatally shot sophomore Ryan McDonald in the school's cafeteria. Both 15-year-olds been involved with the juvenile courts before, but authorities refused to give details.

Bayiates said that if teachers are aware of a student's background, educators will "be able to approach that child in a more proactive way and de-escalate a situation."

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(Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

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Posted by: Lisa on Aug 29, 2008 at 09:24 PM
HELLO!!!! I said I agree teachers should have the records. I also said give them one or two chances and then yes put them somewhere else. I am not seeing where we are disagreeing here. All I said about the teachers is that they need to treat the kids equally. If they are trained to do that (which they should be) then that should not be a problem. There should be consequences according to the crime. I don't think just because they make one mistake they should be thrown out of public school permenantly. Give them one or two chances. My goodness where are we living, Russia? There seems to be so much anger. Wonder where our kids get it, hmmmm?

Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 29, 2008 at 11:10 AM
to lisa...It is up to the teacher and school system to treat them fair, and help the troubled child. Teachers sure arn't in it for the money. If a teacher isn't capable of treating the child fair and helping then they need to find a new job not dealing with kids. Teachers should help the parents mold the kids into fine upstanding citizins and pave the way to the future.

Posted by: Beth Location: Knox on Aug 29, 2008 at 10:33 AM
Lisa,you said "they are children they haven't learned yet".Well,if no one ever forces them to face the consequences of their actions they never will learn.I love my children too much to take chances with their safety.Teachers should be trained well enough to not treat kids badly,but they should know who they are dealing with.at least then they can be on the lookout for trouble.If my child had committed a crime I would be fine letting the teachers know,I would tell them myself-I am a responsible parent who would want my child to be watched,that way there is less chance of them getting in trouble again.it is time to take responsibility for our families.

Posted by: Lisa on Aug 28, 2008 at 02:56 PM
We are talking about children here. Yes some of them have been in trouble time after time and those are the ones that need to be pulled out of public schools for the safety of other children. But the children that make one mistake need to be given another chance. It is very easy to stand back and say stuff about them when they are not your own children. It may not be so easy when your kid gets in trouble next week or even next year. We need to remember that no child is perfect. The parents that think their children are perfect are usually the ones that eventually have the most problems out of them, or don't actually know everything they are doing. Children don't think like adults, they have not lived and learned yet...that is what parents are for, to guide them. Don't be so judgemental when it comes to one or two mistakes. I say let the first person who has never made a mistake step up and show yourself. We need to remember that none of us are perfect.

Posted by: Darlene Location: Knoxville on Aug 28, 2008 at 02:42 PM
About teachers wanting to know about kids police records. I don't think thats a good ideal. I worked in the school system and one child was picked on by all of the teachers because they knew he had a record. Every day the child sat in the office because the teachers did not want him in their class. Since there is suppose to be officers in the schools, maybe they need to do a better job. I just read the comment from Tammy, ask her if her child had a criminal record of a small offense if she would like for them to be picked on daily. For something a small as dropping a piece of paper. They get to set in the office all day for that.

Posted by: Tammy on Aug 28, 2008 at 11:11 AM
When the child becomes a criminal, his rights to privacy should become void. I know the possibility is there without a record, but if knowing the record could save lives lets give the teachers and administrators the access they need!

Posted by: CINDY Location: POWELL on Aug 28, 2008 at 10:34 AM
I have children in the Knox County schools and I am sorry I am tired of the criminals having rights and not my kids. If you do the crime you need suffer the consequences. If more were made to suffer the consequences for their actions maybe there would be fewer crimes in the first place. If we would start punishing bad behaviors maybe they would fear the punishment that's what always kept us out of trouble. In today's world we have forgotten that rules are not made to be broken they are made for the protection of all and we should punish the ones that can not seem to get it through their heads to obey the rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: coach Location: knoxville on Aug 28, 2008 at 08:00 AM
For What?? These are kids we need to look at the parents

Posted by: L Location: Knoxville on Aug 28, 2008 at 07:10 AM
It should not even be left up to the school system to keep up with delinquent kids. The juvenile courts have all the records and should not allow these kids with records to go to regular public school. These teachers and administraters should not have to go to work everyday with criminals and thugs. Would you want to do that? I sure don't like sending my kid into the bull pen everyday.

Posted by: L Location: Knoxville on Aug 28, 2008 at 07:00 AM
Kids with a criminal record should not be allowed to go to regular public school. These kids should have to go to a special school for troubled kids.

Posted by: Lisa on Aug 28, 2008 at 06:35 AM
I agree that teachers do need to be aware of what they may have to deal with. I think they need to know of these past problems as long as it doesn't cause the teacher to treat the students different than the students without a history of problems. Until they cause problems with that certain teacher they should be given the benifit of the doubt. I believe some of these children that go down the wrong road, in most cases with the right guidance, be turned around. Maybe if the teachers knew, the teachers may even be the ones that could give them the guidance they need.

Posted by: Elizabeth Location: Knox on Aug 27, 2008 at 10:42 PM
As a parent of three children in Knox county schools I feel the teachers should be given access to all criminal records so that they know who and what they are dealing with.I also feel that repeat offenders or teens on probation like the shooter was should not be allowed in our public schools.They give up that right when they become criminals.I do not want my kids in school with criminals.If I were a teacher I would want to know who I was teaching.

Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 27, 2008 at 03:10 PM
I think it would be just fine to allow it. Maybe the teachers could help the student since parents are not...parenting.

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